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  Stephanie Fessler v Watch Tower - Trial on Tuesday, Feb. 7, 2017 in Pennsylvania

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://avoidjw.org/2017/02/stephanie-fessler-v-watch-tower/.

  stephanie fessler v watch tower.

  stephanie fessler was brought up as a jehovah’s witness by her parents, jodee and kevin.

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  rebelfighter

  This case was filed as a civil case. I believe what you are stating are the penalties if this was being brought through the criminal justice system.
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  Stephanie Fessler v Watch Tower - Trial on Tuesday, Feb. 7, 2017 in Pennsylvania

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://avoidjw.org/2017/02/stephanie-fessler-v-watch-tower/.

  stephanie fessler v watch tower.

  stephanie fessler was brought up as a jehovah’s witness by her parents, jodee and kevin.

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  rebelfighter

  StephaneLaliberte,

  Well based on your last two post, if I were on that jury given the evidence you just stated and the fact that THIRTEEN adults DID NOT hear the CRIES of a CHILD I think the reward for damages should be 13 million. One million for each adult who failed to hear the cries of a child.
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  The handling of child abuse allegations

  by Landy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.

  but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.

  there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.

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  rebelfighter

  LITS,

  I am getting the picture, as I just said a couple post back. I am not retyping what I already stated in a prior post. I missed what went on a few days ago since I have been really busy in my office, I try to keep up on all the child abuse thread. Really only reason I am still here.

  Unfortunately where I live I have to drive past one of 2 KHS every time I leave my house. How did I get so lucky that I have these 2 KH less then 3 miles from my house. No matter where I go I must pass one of them. Just knowing all of the emotional, physical and sexual abuse that is tolerated in the KH just really irritates me to no end.
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  The handling of child abuse allegations

  by Landy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.

  but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.

  there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.

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  rebelfighter

  Landy,

  Everyone of your incidents should be reported to the authorities even the one where the woman does not want charges to be filed.

  The reason is other women may have already come forward to authorties and they may have a pending case on this perpetrator. If they are following this person you are protecting other women from future abuse. I DO NOT buy this theory that you can pray away this sinful behavior, these abusers go from one victim to their next victim. Just look at the ARC what they had like 1,006 perpetrators and somewhere around 1,700 victims that is disgusting!!!!
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  The handling of child abuse allegations

  by Landy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.

  but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.

  there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.

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  rebelfighter

  Landy,

  I gave you a course of action for all of the incidents call the police.

  The Elders are men and have no business dealing with these matters. But you would know that if you had actually read my prior post.

  I am not going to retype the same thing repeatedly if you continually ask the same questions.
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  The handling of child abuse allegations

  by Landy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.

  but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.

  there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.

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  rebelfighter

  First off can you READ!!! I said at least TWICE now the Certified Adult Volunteer immediately notifies the police or the authorities!!! We do not leave it up to the victim or the victims family to do this.

  We meaning the Adult Certified Volunteer notifies the police or the authorities!!!

  The Adult Certified Volunteer immediately notifies the police or the authorities as soon as we suspect there is some sort as emotional, physical or sexual abuse!!!!

  NOW, have I made myself perfectly clear and gotten through your obviously thick skull?
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  The handling of child abuse allegations

  by Landy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.

  but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.

  there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.

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  rebelfighter

  Landy,

  For the record, the one case of child sexual abuse I did get involved with the. ....... took a plea agreement because he knew if it went before a jury he would never ever see the light of day again. He is on the sex offenders list for life with court orders to NEVER come in contact with any of his children for the remainder of his life. His plea agreement put him behind bars for 15 years but because of his bad behavior he did 20.
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  The handling of child abuse allegations

  by Landy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.

  but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.

  there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.

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  rebelfighter

  Landy,

  Read my first post again. No where did I say to advise the victim or victims parents to go the police.

  We as Certified Adult Volunteers we are required to notify either the police or the proper authorities if we suspect abuse. The reason we do not involve the family because it MAYBE a family member causing the abuse!!

  We get 100% backing from all of the organizations when we do this because 90% of our organizations are out there as charities to raise money for children causes. We just simply LOVE LOVE children. We love our children -- we love YOUR children -- we love every Child!!

  Look up

  Hearing Impaired Kids Endowment

  Shriner's Hospital

  Those are my two passions, I give my all to both of them. I give also to abused /homeless children and women shelters.

  I will not get in a debate with you. No uneducated man in the field of child abuse has any right to question a victim of abuse. I am a female, I will not question a victim of child abuse. I am the victim of both emotional and physical abuse and I can tell you NO man with the exception of a trained therapist has any right to talk to a woman about what she has been through.
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  The handling of child abuse allegations

  by Landy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.

  but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.

  there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.

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  rebelfighter

  Landy,

  The WT needs trained to begin with in emotional, physical and sexual abuse and get their heads out of the sand. Prime example those Caleb and Sofia cartoons should have an Adult rating on them.

  My introduction into the JW Religion was the booklet on Families, I have never in my life gotten so much exercise reading one little booklet. I threw that booklet across the room so many times just to go retrieve and attempt to read the next d.... paragraph. These Elders who are supposed to be the leaders of the Flock of the congregation should be trained how to deal with children. How many times on this forum do we hear from kids they are getting df'd or kicked out of their homes. In our organization we DO NOT consider anyone an adult until they are 20 and if they are in any kind of trouble we rally around them parents, a half dozen adults, pull in outside councilling and whatever else it takes to turn the kid around. The last thing we are going to do so TURN OUR BACK on a kid.

  BTW, the kids and the adults are in this organization to raise money for kids around the world who have hearing problems. The money goes to any kid no matter what their religious beliefs, sex, race or whatever, if they need it all they need to do is apply. It is kids helping kids!!!

  If you have not figured it out I have a ZERO tolerance for any form of child abuse. The police know how to investigate and how to deal with victims the Elders know NOTHING!!!
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  maths

  by pepperheart in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  on the front of the 2016 year book it says that the watchtower is spending $200 million us dollars a year on special pioners etc if they get $1 billion us dollars from selling all the buildings at bethel in new york by my mats that gives them another five years or so.what might happen after that ????

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  rebelfighter

  How much of NY City property was already financed? Did they see the full sale price or did a good portion go to pay off outstanding debt?